[Podcast] You Don’t Need the Lollipop Right Now

January 12, 2022
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Dr. Joe Gerstein is a Fellow of the American College of Physicians and Founder of SMART Recovery. He is also a retired Harvard University professor and lectures at addiction symposiums. Joe introduced SMART to the world and has facilitated over 3,000 meetings.  His passion and motivation for helping others is still going strong after 50+ years. Joe shares some of his thoughts and perspectives for being and staying motivated in your recovery.

In this podcast, Joe talks about:

  • How the addiction and recovery fields have changed in medicine through the years
  • His focus on establishing meetings in correctional facilities
  • The two components of motivation being a simple yet complex phenomenon
  • The translation of desire to commitment
  • Can you ever be cured of alcoholism
  • Realizing that SMART was more than a two-point program
  • The benefits of peers in recovery meetings
  • How humans are a habit-forming breed
  • The decisions that brought you to a meeting
  • Three things to be successful in recovery

Additional resources:

Click here to find all of SMART Recovery’s podcasts


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